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to return to clinton era levels. obama's nemesis as he often told us are millionaires and billionaires. so why not urge that the higher tax rates be applied only to those with incomes of $1 million and not the couples earning more than $250,000. now, i'm talking pure politics, not equity in this case. can they hang their hat on the fact, okay, you're against millionaires, we'll take back their cut for the millionaires? below that they have to get the deal. >> the problem with this is chuck schumer and other senate democrats tried to offer this to republicans last time. remember the last time we did this they rejected it. >> it works for them now. they can say all we want is the schumer deal. >> right now they don't have the leverage to get the schumer deal. they rejected the schumer deal. they don't have the leverage to get it. >> here we disagree. i think they may have a case. if the bogey man is the millionaire -- >> i think that's where it's going to end up. i think that's the flektability in the negotiations at the end is over to whom the higher rates apply. >> but they don't raise tha
clinton. how much do you think fiscal cliff was coming up during their golf rounds? >> i'm sure they talked about it because president clinton is a political wonk. what bill clinton showed during his presidency is that there's a way to show common ground with republicans who hate you. they impeached bill clinton but made a deal. they made a deal that was nor the right of where most democrats are. this president has a unique opportunity to make a deal for more towards his left. remember dick cheney said to -- speaking of sequels. remember when dick cheney said you got the high approval ratings you can spend them on the iraq war. republicans what they want is the president to spend some of his popularity and put out unpopular ideas for cuts. democrats don't have an incentive to do that. >> big news. stand by. my thanks. in need to pass along this breaking news from across the pond. we're just learning that prince william and kate middleton are expecting. this is news from clarence house. they will be having their first baby. nbc news is working further to confirm this but the rest
of an interventionist than hillary clinton is pillar clinton adulate at low. susan rice would be more of a humanitarian interventionists. >> we know that the talking points given by the intelligence community were altered, and we still don't know who offered them and why. -- who atlered them and why. maybe the administration allowed them to continue to sit at al qaeda is still on its heels and everything he said in charlotte. how do you get to that story when we know that the intelligence community said something else? it was changed pretty who did it? that is the scandal. >> who lost china? >> the u.n. votes for palestine as a non-voting observer state. >> progress cannot be made by pressing agree voting button in this hall, nor does passing any resolution to create a state where none exists or change the reality on the ground. >> speaking of susan rice, there she is, the u.n. ambassador to the general assembly voted on thursday by a large amount and to upgrade palestine from its status as an observer entity to an observer state. the united states opposed this, as you just heard from susan rice. why i
clinton's future and her running for president in 2016? that is our question this morning on the "washington journal." you can start dialing in now, or you can contact us via social media. you can make a comment on our facebook page. you can also send us an e-mail. from "the hill" newspaper yesterday -- a new poll by abc news and "the washington post." 57% say they support a presidential bid from every clinton in 2016. -- from hillary clinton in 2016. 68% approved of her work as secretary of state. 66% hold a favorable view of clinton after her department has faced criticism over the handling of benghazi and libya. clinton also has heavy support in new york were 54% of registered voters say they would support a presidential bid by her in 2016. that is an "the hill" newspaper. we have lots of facebook comments already on this question. we want to share a couple of those with thieu. jackie says "she has my vote." williams says i think she has been a great job for secretary of state but will not vote for her for president. andy says hillary 2016. military spouses against the
hillary clinton has a new bff. here she is with meryl streep doing a cell to at the dinner and had a good time. both of them. >>> to politics now where nbc news has confirmed congresswoman debbie wasserman-schultz will remain dnc chairwoman. two sources say president obama will ask the dnc to sign off on his choice in january. >>> everyone is waiting to see if the president will nominate u.n. ambassador susan rice to be the next secretary of state. she's had her defenders and detractors. both were on the sunday shows. >> it is terribly unfair that she should be the scapegoat for this when really the failures ought to be at the lap of the head of the intelligence community that produced those talking points but none of these guys will say a word about david petraeus. >> when it comes to citizen rice, as far as lind jay graham is concerned i find great fault with what she said on 16th september and in other areas i find her lacking when it comes to being the best choice for secretary of state. >> former president george h.w. bush is still in the hospital. he may not be discharged until this
mind, you don't have to go back to the clinton era tax rates for this to be a workable deal. >> well, i think you do. >> all the way up? >> again, our proposal is to let those rates go back to clinton levels for 2% of the wealthiest americans. and combine that with tax reforms that limit deductions for the wealthiest americans. we think if you do that, alongside the spending savings, then you can put the country back on a much more responsible fiscal path. >> including getting rid of the mortgage interest deduction or the charitable giving deduction? do you think those have to be on the table and looked at? >> we have proposed -- and we did this four years ago -- a carefully designed way to limit modestly the value of all of those deductions for the wealthiest 2% of americans. there are other ways to do it. we can take a look at those ways. but there's no way you can do this in a balanced way that restores fiscal responsibility without tax rates going up. >> one of the things i've heard talking to republicans today is this notion that you want to take away congress' ability to have the
a political point of view. when i have those same conversations with secretary clinton, i feel -- she's always supportive obviously of the president's agenda, but it's a different sense of transparency and directness and pointing out, you know, things we need to be thinking about, and i'm not saying that ambassador rice in that position couldn't end up being that way, but initially my sense of her is, and we had this very direct conversation yesterday for about 30 minutes, is i do -- i have always sensed her to be more of a political operative. i know she's steeped in policy and has spent lots of time in africa, and i don't take that away from her, but i do have some concerns. again, if she's nominated, i'm going to give her a full hearing, and i promise you it will be a fair, full hearing. >> i take you at your word, senator. it's great for you to come on. a very clear point of view you've given us. thank you for joining us on "hardball." yesterday i spoke with senator susan collins who also had concerns about ambassador rice. >> it's obvious she chose to emphasize some aspects and downplay o
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about it all the clinton era tax breaks come back. do you remember the clinton era 3.8 unemployment, not bad. job creators were paying more in taxes. good ol' days, i think. republicans say bad 'ol days because they never supported the clinton era tax breaks. that's the reality. we would have time to put in place target relief for middle income teams who need it. and republicans would be freed from this pledge with grover norquist. no longer would they be voting to increase taxes. we would be giving them limited opportunities to vote to cut taxes for middle income, working families and others who need it and deserve it. unfortunately, they wouldn't get the vote on restoring the bush-era rates for millionaires and billionaires for a total of dividends down to 15% or even back to the capital gains rates of clinton era or maybe back to the reagan era. we could talk about significant revenues that would not impact or hurt 98% of the people in this country. >> eliot: i think your logic is impeccable. i'm one of those saying for a long time let them expire. our hand only gets stronger as
to the clinton tax rates. the current rates are expected to expire on new year's eve, all of them, and congressman cole has decided it's time to face reality. >> these tax rates are going up automatically unless congress acts. to save as many of them as possible. >> the newest republican defector from grover norquist's pledge has instantly become as good a sales man for higher top tax rates as any democrat. >> right now, congress can pass a law that would prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody's income. everybody's. even the wealthiest americans would still get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. it's not like folks who make more than 250 aren't getting a tax break, they've getting a tax break on the first 250, just like everybody else. >> congressman cole first said this in a closed door meeting with republicans yesterday. he said basically exactly what president obama just said and he then expanded on his comments instead of denying them or refusing to comment at all, which he could have done. house speaker john boehner, who needs other loyal republic
. secretary of state hillary clinton calling the move a setback. >> let me reiterate that this administration, like previous administrations, has been very clear with israel, that these activities that back the cause of a negotiated peace. we all need to work together to find a path forward in negotiations that can finally deliver on a two-state solution. that must remain our goal. >> kelly: so what does it mean for the stalled israeli-palestinian peace talks, john bolton weighs in just ahead. >> jamie: also, a top al-qaeda terrorist is now in custody. big news, we'll tell you where he was captured and why his arrest is so significant. >> kelly: plus, breaking news out of sear yeah, the country's internet service is back on as fighting begins between troops and rebels. we're live in the the middle east. >> jamie: and also, a defiant move out of north korea. the rogue nation's latest plan to launch yet another long range rocket. [ abdul-rashid ] i've been working since i was about 16. you know, one job or the other. the moment i could access the retirement plan, i just became firm about it --
was erskine bowles' idea. they summarized the testimony that the bill clinton chief of staff last year gave about what he thought might kind of be a workable budget deal way back then. because bowles is a democrat, the republicans thought they he could try to pretend that agreeing with a single democrat means that they are actually willing to compromise big time even though erskine bowles is a very easy democrat to negotiate with, unlike the actual elected democrats in washington. in other words, erskine bowles is willing to compromise on things or was willing to compromise on things that the democrats are not willing to compromise on. which means that it's utterly meaningless on your way to try to get a deal with the president of the united states. erskine bowles' proposal included a $600 billion cut in medicare spending which he achieved by raising the medicare eligibility age. so republicans just proposed raising the eligibility age for medicare, a proposal that polls show is supported by a full 30% of the american people and rejected by only 67% of them. white house communications direc
the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who does not believe in unicorns, pink or otherwise, mr. grover norquist. grover, what a day to have you on the show. thanks for joining us. >> absolutely. of course, you know, north korea and -- media announced they did find unicorns in north korea. >> we don't often take our cues from them. i am one that firmly believes in the existence of unicorns somewhere and hopefully maybe in this fiscal cliff deal. grover, the first question i have for you is this, your pledge, the pledge that many republicans have signed on to, opposes any and all efforts to increase marginal income tax rates and opposes any net reduction or elimination of deductions and credi
was running for election but also the man who is a sore loser. >>> it's been four years since hillary clinton ran for president, but she's still carrying $70,000 in campaign debt. secretary of state mrs. clinton is not allowed to do any campaigning for herself so it is up to her husband bill to try to get that number down when she ran for president back in 2008, she ended up racking up $25 million. again that number is to about $73,000 about four years later. you can join us on chat which is always fun to do. go to current.com/stephanie miller and we'll be back with more show after the break. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, it's "the stephanie miller show." >> what a week we're having, really? nothing is worse in radio when somebody steals your ahead phones. now i'm using your ear phones and god knows what been in your ears. >> now wearing ear phones with big chunks of metal up against my here's. >> stephanie: all right, we're having a week. 1-800-steph-12 toll-free from anywhere. fortunately, we have a pre-holiday street. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> a
in 1998 when she served as the assistant secretary of state for african affairs in the clinton administration. watch this. >> those bombings in 1998 resulted in the loss of life of 12 americans as well as many other foreign nationals, and 4,000 people were injured. and what troubles me so much is the benghazi attack in many ways echoed the attacks on those embassies in 1998 when susan rice was head of the african region for our state department. in both cases, the ambassador begged for additional security. the ambassador to kenya sent repeated messages to the state department requesting a stronger facility because of the increased threat, and those requests, as in the case of benghazi, were turned down by the state department. i asked ambassador rice what her role was. she said she would have to refresh her memory, but that she was not involved directly in turning down the requests, but surely given her position as the assistant secretary for african affairs she had to be aware of the general threat assessment and of the ambassador's repeated requests for more security. >> sean
." >> not reaching out aggressively enough like bill clinton, lbj, ronald reagan did. and also it was critical the first four years about him not reaching out enough to the business community. he didn't understand the business community, according to ceos who supported him for four years. but steve rattner, he's made a pretty dramatic shift since the election, and certainly i salute him for doing this, he actually is very engaged with the business community. and i'm not hearing the sort of things from top ceos and business leaders today that i heard the first four years. maybe -- maybe he's leaning in here and trying to rebuild a relationship with some of these people who supported him in '08. >> and i think it goes both ways. i think the business community views this deficit thing as the biggest problem that we can solve that we need to solve. there's something called a campaign to fix the debt, which i'm on the steering committee, 120 leading ceos from everything from general electric to jpmorgan on down. really committed to doing something and accepting the idea that revenues have to go up,
under bill clinton proven just the opposite. in the eight years under george bush proven when you do give tax cuts to the rich, the economy doesn't soar, it sinks. president obama finally part of their campaign yesterday always very clever. obama operation. they came up with a way for all americans to be able to sound off on this issue. he noted that if the tax cuts on the middle class on the 98% do go up, middle class americans will pay $2,000 more in taxes every year. that means $2,000 out of your pocket so the president's asking people to tell members of congress what that -- what you could do with that $2,000. what that $2,000 would mean to you and they're sending -- asking people to send their stories to their member of congress. republican or democrat or to their united states senators and they've done so by coming up with a twitter hash tag. it's hash tag my 2k. president obama announcing it. >> obama: tell members of commerce what a $2,000 tax hike would mean to you. call your members of congress. write
. susan rice has not been nominated. do we expect movement on that? we know hillary clinton has bun unequivocal she is leaving and there will be an opening. will this move between now and the end of the year whether susan rice or anyone else is nominated? >> reporter: there could be an announcement as early as next week, and i want to stress could be. talk to go senior administration officials and asking them if this resistance that they have gotten publicly to a rice nomination has in any way dissuaded the president from nominating rice. they tell me, no. they still believe that she would get the votes to be confirmed if she was, in fact, chosen. chris? >> from one end of pennsylvania avenue to the other, kelly o'donnell and kristen welker, thank you. >> thanks. good to see you, chris. >>> now from the third branch of government. we're covering the entire government today. we'll find out if the supreme court will weigh in on a pair of hi high-profile cases that would help define the rights and benefits of same-sex couples. pete williams is the justice correspondent. he joins me fro
other than william jefferson clinton playing. imagine the conversation out there on the links at andrews. >>> up next, we'll talk to the former senate majority leader who recently served as u.s. special envoy for middle east peace. was the leading peace negotiator for that region, former senator george mitchell will join us live on the other side of the break. we'll spend some time with him. >>> and record rainfall up and down the west coast. a live report from one northern california town, where the river is literally rushing through it. >>> money was the single most important factor in the election. >> a little bit later, former president jimmy carter said president obama's re-election win was his grandson's doing. we're dead serious. we'll tell you why, we're watching msnbc. the place for politics. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even pulsate to gently loosen and break up that sticky plaque with more brush movements than manual brushes and even up to 50% more than leading sonic technology br
forgets that president clinton raised taxes on the wealthy and created 22 million jobs. president bush cut taxes on the wealthy and created 1 million jobs. so his economic expertise is a little behind here. but the truth of the matter is, everybody voted in this election, the president said he would raise taxes on people earning over $250,000. that's what he's going to do. that's what's going to happen. he has the authority of an election behind him. running for office is a difficult thing to do, and the people that win the elections have a lot more moral authority than in a democracy than people who talk about elections. >> ryan, that does seem to be the point. republicans may not like it, but that wasn't what this election said american people want. the majority of them. >> i think it's certainly true you have a large number of americans, 60%, according to a "washington post" abc news poll who favor raising taxes on folks earning more than $250,000 a year. but there are a couple other things to keep in mind, as well. president obama often talks about returning to clinton era tax rates.
president clinton to bend to their will or at least so he said on piers morgan last night when he said "we earned president clinton's respect by closing the government twice and being very rough and tumble. we showed we actually were willing to take the heat." mr. wistful himself. newt gingrich. then moving on to the fifth stage of grief. we finally reach the last one which is acceptance. the acknowledgement that i can't fight it. i might as well prepare for it. and, in fact, we're seeing signs that some of the more evolved republicans have reached that stage. a few dozen republicans have actually joined a bipartisan call to find a compromise. they signed a letter calling for the exploration of all options on taxes and entitlement programs. and today, one of them, kay granger of texas said that a demand to raise rates on top earners is, and this is her quote "just the right thing to do." representative mike simpson of idaho told bloomberg news "it's pretty obvious that obama won the election and he promised he was goin
the president's top choice to replace secretary clinton. more than benghazi can propose problems for ambassador rice. we will take a close look coming up next. and president obama keep saying the same thing. speaker boehner keeps asking for the same thing. we will be talking with one of more than 200 congressman who have signed the grover norquist antitax pledge. lou: congressional republicans pushing back hard against the president and democrats over the fiscalliff proposal. the white house saying that the real problem is republicans who won't give in on new taxes for top earners. my next guest sound grover norquist and his anti-tax pledge concerning. congressman nunes, it is great to have you with us. >> this little visit i timothy geithner to speaker boehner, in which he bsically says we are going to talk about stimulus -- that is pretty hard step to push or to stomachh isn't? >> yes, timothy geithner has been coming here for four years. he has come before the ways and means committee, before the budget committee. this guy has never told us the truth and we challenged them for years. the num
the federal budget deficit. he knows something about something. he was around when clinton -- remember that economy? okay. he said i wish president obama and the democrats would explain to the nation the federal budget deficit isn't the major problem and deficit reduction shouldn't be the major goal. problem is lack of good jobs and the goal must to be revive both. deficit reduction leads us away from jobs and growth. the reason the fiscal cliff is dangerous is because it's too much deficit reduction too quickly that would suck demand out of the economy. more jobs and growth will help the deficit. recall the '90s when the clinton administration balanced the budget because of faster job growth than anybody expected bringing in more tax revenues than anyone had forecast. europe offers the same lesson in reverse. thank you. as jim says, every time we talk about this, they keep taking the wrong -- lindsey graham said we're going to be greece. yeah, if we do what you want! the best way to generate jobs and growth is
syria. hillary clinton had a statement out yesterday. she's in the czech republic, and she said this. i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we would do in the event there's credible evidence that the assad regime has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people, but suffice it to say we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur. first of all, what do you think that means, specifically? and, and what should it mean? >> i think it means that it's a red line for americans and the world. if that were to happen then i would expect some form of very tough military response. >> which would be what? >> i think it would be unlikely to speculate and specify right now and that's why she's being cautious in what she said. but up to now, what the west has been doing is giving some political support to the syrian opposition, obviously trying to resolve the situation as far as is possible. it's not been possible so far. >> and every day 100 people die or more. >> there are a lot of people dying. now the death toll probably would be around 40,000
gotta taste this soup. >>> we learned today it's obama versus clinton again. not in the way you might imagine. michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown," the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy eating. and the former president was nominated in the same category for "back to work, why we need smart government for a strong economy." the returns for this race will be on february 10th when we'll find out who won. we'll be right back. ...but he'd wait for her forever, for any reason, and would always be there with the biggest welcome home. for a love this strong, dawn only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein. ...to help keep rocky's body as strong as a love that never fades... if he ever lets her leave again. iams. keep love strong. >>> welcome back to "hardball." did republican efforts to suppress the vote backfire this time? in dozens of states they made efforts to keep peop
't be prouder of the job she's done. >> she appears to be the top candidate to replace hillary clintons a secretary of state. but could gop opposition change that. joining me is adam shif who said it's unfair to go after rice for information given to her by the cia. so your take on her chance of being approved by the senate. is this worth it to the president? >> i think she would be an extraordinary secretary of state. he ought to go forward and nominate her. it wouldn't be a slam dunk, but she's a strong candidate and would be confirmed. and when you look at the criticism of her, it's so completely unjustified. no one is critiquing her job as ambassador where she organized the sanctions on iran. where she went after and depose moammar gadhafi. she's had a phenomenal record and the only criticism of her is she replied on talking points provided by the intelligence community. that seems to me unfair when the director of the cia and intelligence -- to criticize her for that seems a slender read. so the president ought to go forward. >> i want to bring forward what lindsey graham said this
back in 1996, during the whole conflict with the clinton administration over the government shutdown. i was totally opposed to any tax increases at that time. but to say that a pledge on an issue like taxes would last for a lifetime is ridiculous. ronald reagan raised taxes a number of times because that's what he had to do to close the deal. >> when norquist started his anti-tax pledge, the deficit was $220 billion. now, it tops $1 trillion. this is a turning point for the gop or at least it could be. the other thing you need to know about is the money trail. in 2010, 66% of funding for americans for tax reform, norquist's group, came from two billionaire groups, according to an investigation by the nation magazine, karl rove's group, crossroads gps, gave $4 million. the center to protect patients rights, one of the front groups for the koch brothers, gave over $4 million. >>> congressman, good to have you with us. that tells you all you need to know. norquist group is simply another front for millionaires and billionaires that don't want to see their taxes go up at all under any circu
saw hillary clinton leading the applause. really, you know, to be fair about it, the officer in charge was the state department and the cia. you're going to take the u.n. ambassador, haul her before all these people the last couple of days as if she's the expert on benghazi. >> the big thing is not what she said on a talk show. it's what actually happened and what should be done after it. if you look at the talking point, unclassified talking points, she didn't sit there and weigh and decide what to say. she kind of did what many people in washington, including senators often do, stuck to the unclassified talking points and didn't go into the other stuff. >> they believe she shifted -- to get her testimony we got here from susan collin, she believes the ambassador to the u.n. went on television on sunday, not a talk show, but "meet the press," which is about establishing hard news on sunday, it's a very -- you know the cycle -- >> he no, we -- >> the government puts officials on to make official statements. >> right. >> her official statement said was shaded in a political direction an
's top choice to replace secretary clinton. more than benghazi can propose problems for ambassador rice. we will take a close look coming up next. and president obama keep saying the same thing. speaker boehner keeps asking for the same thing. we will be talking with one of more than 200 congressman who have signed the grover norquist antitax pledge. congressman nunes coming up next it [ male annouer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. u. is to me, relationships matter. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know il be able to stick with him. [ male announcer ] with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral to see a specialist. so don't wait. call now and request this free decision guide to help you better understand medicare... and which aarp medicare supplement plan might be best for you. there's a wide range to choose from. we love to travel -- and there's so much more to see. so we found a pl
of state hillary clinton said farewell to nato allies during a visit to brussels. as she contemplates the future, she may well be encouraged by a new washington post poll. asked if they would vote for her if she ran for president in 2016, 57% said yes while 37% said no. joining us is our white house correspondent kristen welker. we found out the editor of "the new yorker" said hillary clinton would run in 2016 and dustin hoffman would support her if she ran but what chatter are you hearing around the white house about that? >> reporter: democratic sources tell me the secretary of state just hasn't decided yet. she's still in the process of mulling over this decision. having said that, they also tell me that the political operation is doing what they need to do to preserve the right to run if that's what she decides to do in 2016. that's playing out behind the scenes. publicly we've seen this unfold for quite some time. her president, former president bill clinton, was president obama's key surrogate during this election cycle, setting the stage for president obama to return the favor
's not a coincidence that the president was golfing with bill clinton this sudden. that is as much the president likes golf as much as an effort to say, here i am with the great dealmaker, the reasonable guy that everybody likes, regardless of whether clinton's actually giving him any advice on this although i'm sure he is. >> if you look back to the health care debate obama tried to appear reasonable last time and that didn't work well for him. what he's doing now is all the things he didn't do last time. starting with the unreasonable position, with what he wants rather than what he thinks he'll get which is a better bargaining position. he's going out and trying to get people to pick up the phone, take up, you know, twitter and facebook and tell congress we want to get this done. so he's doing a lot of the things from a negotiating standpoint that he didn't do last it time around, while still, you know, kind of queuing up the blame game as both sides are doing to make sure that other guy takes the fall if it doesn't work. >> and i think to eric's point, this is why you hear the bill crystals of the
clinton's economic team, people like bob rubin and larry podesta, have put their name to a plan that calls for $200 billion more in tax revenue than even the president is asking. for more now we have with us william cohen in new york, a columnist for the bloomberg view, and clarence page, a columnist for "the chicago tribune." welcome to both of you. clarence, one thing this makes plain is democrats are feeling confident in a fiscal cliff win. why not ask for more? >> well, they're certainly asking for more than president obama is asking, and that is the point here. they feel that the policies of the clinton era that gave us the prosperity that we saw back then would be good to impose now. they are really calling for a different kind of arrangement pushing for a simplification of the tax code that would include taxes on cigarettes and alcoholic beverages which would cross income lines, those kind of consumer taxes hit lower income tax people -- taxpayers as well as upper, and they want to get rid of the amt, that automatic tax that's designed to make sure that older -- rather, the higher i
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